Next level

Fully fit and enjoying the best football of his career, Barcelona midfielder Pedri opens up to Graham Hunter about his vision on the pitch, the impact of Hansi Flick, learning from Barça’s past masters and putting the pain of injury behind him to take his game to another level

PHOTOGRAPHY Alex Caparrós

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When Pedri scores a goal, like that absolute worldie while winning the Copa del Rey final in April, you see enough of his tongue lolling down towards his chin in celebration to believe he might be the planet’s biggest Rolling Stones fan. During this interview, it’s his shiny white teeth which are repeatedly on show instead. Grin follows grin, because he’s sublimely happy with just about everything in his world: who he plays for, how often he plays, how dazzlingly he’s performing, who’s in his ‘gang’ and, how, with two trophies already bagged this season, Barcelona are competing when we meet to become the first club to win the fabled treble three times.

Pedri relishes chatting about football in depth, plus he’s impressed by the capacious leather gentleman’s-club armchair we’ve provided for this long interview. Only missing a handy wee table for a nice glass of brandy, we agree. The contentment he radiates is also because he happens to be one of those lucky people blessed with a sunny temperament, a quick sense of humour and the great fortune to be paid to do what he most loves in the world – kicking a football. Caressing might be the better verb in his case. Still only 22, Pedro González López has already seen the best and worst of times. Signed by Barcelona from Las Palmas in 2019, the plan was for him to learn the ropes in the B team, or cut his teeth on loan in the Bundesliga, but Blaugrana legend Ronald Koeman took (literally) one look at the youngster with the ball at his feet and decided, not only does this kid stay, he starts. First team. No question.

Correctly hailed as a phenomenal passing machine in summer 2021 for his colossal performances as Spain reached the semi-finals of EURO 2020, and picked in the Team of the Tournament when just 18, the Canary Islander was blighted by repeated muscle injuries for too long thereafter. Nevertheless, he’s already won La Liga, the Copa del Rey (twice), Spain’s Super Cup (twice) and EURO 2024, as well as the Kopa Trophy and Golden Boy Award. Every coach he encounters, for club or country (six important ones so far), neels at the end of their bed at night praying a fervent thank you for Pedri. 

Right now, he’s playing Ballon d’Or-level football: daring, front-foot, inspirational, Iniesta-esque football. It’s a joy to watch. Here, for your entertainment, is the world according to Pedri. Grin, stick out your tongue but, above all, savour his magic wherever and whenever you possibly can.

How much are you loving your game?

I’m hugely enjoying myself on the pitch, and that shows in the performances. If I had to give you a score out of 10 for how happy I am, it’s a 10. It’s one of the most enjoyable runs I’ve had, and I hope it continues for a long time. When I’m training and enjoying myself, it’s not a job; it’s simply my life and what I want to do. If you let me do what I like to do, that’s when I’m happy and, right now, I am.

Is the ball your friend?

Yes! I’ve always said it’s my best friend, since I was a little boy, since I was at home, in the corridor of my house, nutmegging my family, or trying to dribble past them. I’ve always had it at my feet, I’ve always tried to keep one next to me. When I’ve been nervous or have had things happen to me in my life, it was the one thing that calmed me down. I could enjoy my time with it and forget about everything else. When I played with my friends as a kid or against a wall, trying to be a little better every day, you forget about everything else. You switch off. That’s the most beautiful thing about football.

You’re always looking around on the pitch. Are you taking mental pictures to decide your next move?

When you have the ball, or look before receiving it, you know where your team-mates are. Or, when you’re in the middle of a dribble, you can see your team-mate making a run. Those moments give you information to know what to do in the next play. Often, you think before you get the ball. Other times, it’s all instinct because you have less time. But knowing where the players and your team-mates are positioned, it’s much easier to know where you have to control the ball or where to pass it.

Are you aware of how many images are flying through your head?

No, it simply happens. I was born with it. I’ve done it from a young age. In professional football, everything happens much more quickly, and my mind works faster too, so I wouldn’t be able to say how many images I see during a game. It happens subconsciously.

Why do you celebrate scoring by sticking out your tongue?

Many people have asked me that. My family and friends ask me why I stick my tongue out. There’s no specific reason; it just came to me when I scored my first goal for Las Palmas, and like other things I do when I play, it happens subconsciously. It’s just something I do when I score a goal, and it’s just stuck! And every time I see you, I do it, as you know me and I know you’ll copy it. It’s that mutual trust we have, and every time we meet, we celebrate a small goal. 

“It’s better to slow the game down and attack in a precise way when we’re ready. That’s how we do most damage”
It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or

What does FC Barcelona mean to you?

It’s my life. Since I was a kid, that has been the case. I would always watch the games with my family, and my father instilled it in me as a kid. I watched games at the supporters’ club and always wanted them to win, and now I can enjoy it from the inside. I’m living everything I dreamt of, and right now, it’s everything to me. 

You arrived here from Las Palmas, but you play as if you grew up at La Masia. How is that?

Partly because I watched so many Barça games from a very young age. Football in the Canary Islands is about quality, enjoying having the ball, so it’s similar to Barça’s football. By watching so many matches on TV, watching videos of Andrés [Iniesta] or Xavi, lots of things stick with you. You try to copy them, you try to practise it, but it’s tough to be at that level. So, you try to improve every day so that, one day, you can do what they did. I would often watch Iniesta videos. He was my idol, and I would try to copy what he did in a specific play, how he protected the ball. 

Your position is similar to Xavi’s, but your style is more like Iniesta’s these days. Would you agree?

Yes, my position in midfield has changed a little bit. I play a bit further back, so I get on the ball a bit more and can replicate the days when Barcelona had a lot of possession with Xavi and Iniesta. They had so much possession and got on the ball a lot in midfield. When you have a player with quality and when you enjoy yourself, everything works out. Everything flows, to put it one way, and I’m playing my best football at the moment. Iniesta’s level was incredible, and I hope to reach that level one day.

You play the same way whether you are under pressure or not, whether playing for Barcelona or Spain.

I’ve always wanted to try to do something when there is pressure. You often think your opponent is right on top of you, but you have an extra second. It might not feel like it, but you have time to turn, play it back to the defence, and that’s important when you’re being pressed. When a central midfielder is pressed by the opposition and calls for the ball, they can make a play and help their team-mates, and this is key for a possession-based game plan.

When you draw the opposition players in, do your ankles suffer?

Yes. They do sometimes take a beating, but it’s often better to take a knock on your ankle and your team keeps the ball than lose possession and not wanting the ball and hiding behind the opposition.

You seem to control time and space on the pitch. Is that a good summary?

That’s what I try to do in a match. We have a lot of attackers in the team, so they always want to push forward. Sometimes, it’s better to slow the game down, get our foot on the ball and keep it, because lots of turnovers are not good for us as a team. It’s better to slow it down, calm down and attack in a precise way when the team is ready. That’s how we can do most damage.

Hansi Flick is strict, but he’s also a kind of father figure. Is that fair?

Yes. It’s a young squad and he is a father in the way that he always tries to look after us. He is there for you if you’re not playing. He always tries to help you. Besides being strict, the side of him that you don’t see from outside is that he always tries to help you when you’re playing badly. He speaks to you, asks what’s wrong. He tries to be this father role that you mentioned. It’s great because when it’s time to train, he’s strict, and when it comes to talking, he’s also calm.

What was it like to rejoin the squad after your injury and to have to learn Barça’s new high defensive line?

It was hard to adapt, especially when I was watching it from the outside during pre-season and they were implementing it. It worked out from the start, so that calmed me down a little, but it was a bit like… not fear, because I knew that if we were doing it, there was a reason, but just to see how I would adapt. For example, the first time I played, when you’re out on the pitch, you look back and say, “There’s a lot of space behind!” But, from the very start, the team has done it really well, and when it works it gives you much more confidence. Everyone trusts the boss, everyone knows what he’s trying to say. I’ve started studying English too, to understand him even more, and that’s important. The good thing is that the team receives that message, and it shows. Despite the language, he’s managed to convey [his vision] perfectly. 

Does it make you think even more about never losing the ball?

Exactly, yes, because if you lose the ball, they’re immediately right in front of Tek [Wojciech Szczęsny]. It’s important that when we don’t have the ball and a midfielder from the other team has it, there’s no way you can let them turn and think, because with such a high line, if he has time to think, he’ll play a through ball into space and they’ll be through on goal. The key to playing with such a high line is putting pressure on the ball, making sure the player in possession has no space or time, because if not, you’re done.

Because the high line makes the game so compact, you have an advantage, don’t you?

Exactly. I think Barça’s playing style in every training session, in every rondo, in everything, is always played in small spaces. And playing possession football in small spaces, where there’s less room, Barça players have always come out on top in that scenario. We have the quality to play in those spaces.

How tough was it dealing with the injury and rehabilitation?

Nobody is ever prepared for it. It’s the worst part of the game. The worst thing of all is when the team goes out and trains on the pitch, and you can’t play because you’re injured and undergoing treatment. You have to train alone – it’s just you and the ball. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. It’s difficult and a tough time to go through. 

Did you have to fight any demons?

No. I was lucky that when I started playing again, I had forgotten about what happened, about the injury. As soon as I set foot on the pitch again, I tried to enjoy it as much as I could. It’s true that when another injury came along and I needed crutches again, it was quite hard, but the doctor said that it was time to recover, no matter how many weeks it took, whether it would be four or six weeks, or whatever, and that it would be the last [injury].

Has fitness coach Julio Tous played a part in you being able to play so many matches?

All the fitness coaches who came in changed the way we trained. I’m not saying we’re training better or worse or anything like that, but simply that what we do is different. It’s something I’d never seen and I’d never done before. I think I’m doing well, personally, and the team too because we’re flying. I think they’ve taken a new approach to fitness training and that has been great for us.

Tell me about your leadership style.

It’s very hard to define, but I always try to help. When I see someone with their head down, I try to talk to him, ask what’s wrong, try to help him. For example, in my case, when I make a mistake, that’s all I can think about. So, whenever a team-mate makes a mistake, I’ll go over to them and tell them it’s OK, that they’ll get it right next time. These things help, mentally speaking, and they certainly help the team.

Were you happy your Spain team-mate Rodri won the Ballon d’Or?

It showed that a player who runs the midfield and dictates the tempo and the rhythm of the game can win a Ballon d’Or. I was really pleased he won it, because aside from the season he had, I really enjoy playing with him when I’m with the national team. He controls the game really well, wins the ball back, gets forward, scores goals – he’s everywhere on the pitch. It’s really important for the Ballon d’Or that a midfielder wins it, not always the forwards.

Don’t be humble, but could we one day see Pedri lift the Ballon d’Or?

Hopefully. It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or. But, right now, there’s a month to go, and the focus is on the team – on winning those three trophies, which is what really matters. Once that month’s over, we’ll see if we can start talking about things like that. 

Pedri relishes chatting about football in depth, plus he’s impressed by the capacious leather gentleman’s-club armchair we’ve provided for this long interview. Only missing a handy wee table for a nice glass of brandy, we agree. The contentment he radiates is also because he happens to be one of those lucky people blessed with a sunny temperament, a quick sense of humour and the great fortune to be paid to do what he most loves in the world – kicking a football. Caressing might be the better verb in his case. Still only 22, Pedro González López has already seen the best and worst of times. Signed by Barcelona from Las Palmas in 2019, the plan was for him to learn the ropes in the B team, or cut his teeth on loan in the Bundesliga, but Blaugrana legend Ronald Koeman took (literally) one look at the youngster with the ball at his feet and decided, not only does this kid stay, he starts. First team. No question.

Correctly hailed as a phenomenal passing machine in summer 2021 for his colossal performances as Spain reached the semi-finals of EURO 2020, and picked in the Team of the Tournament when just 18, the Canary Islander was blighted by repeated muscle injuries for too long thereafter. Nevertheless, he’s already won La Liga, the Copa del Rey (twice), Spain’s Super Cup (twice) and EURO 2024, as well as the Kopa Trophy and Golden Boy Award. Every coach he encounters, for club or country (six important ones so far), neels at the end of their bed at night praying a fervent thank you for Pedri. 

Right now, he’s playing Ballon d’Or-level football: daring, front-foot, inspirational, Iniesta-esque football. It’s a joy to watch. Here, for your entertainment, is the world according to Pedri. Grin, stick out your tongue but, above all, savour his magic wherever and whenever you possibly can.

How much are you loving your game?

I’m hugely enjoying myself on the pitch, and that shows in the performances. If I had to give you a score out of 10 for how happy I am, it’s a 10. It’s one of the most enjoyable runs I’ve had, and I hope it continues for a long time. When I’m training and enjoying myself, it’s not a job; it’s simply my life and what I want to do. If you let me do what I like to do, that’s when I’m happy and, right now, I am.

Is the ball your friend?

Yes! I’ve always said it’s my best friend, since I was a little boy, since I was at home, in the corridor of my house, nutmegging my family, or trying to dribble past them. I’ve always had it at my feet, I’ve always tried to keep one next to me. When I’ve been nervous or have had things happen to me in my life, it was the one thing that calmed me down. I could enjoy my time with it and forget about everything else. When I played with my friends as a kid or against a wall, trying to be a little better every day, you forget about everything else. You switch off. That’s the most beautiful thing about football.

You’re always looking around on the pitch. Are you taking mental pictures to decide your next move?

When you have the ball, or look before receiving it, you know where your team-mates are. Or, when you’re in the middle of a dribble, you can see your team-mate making a run. Those moments give you information to know what to do in the next play. Often, you think before you get the ball. Other times, it’s all instinct because you have less time. But knowing where the players and your team-mates are positioned, it’s much easier to know where you have to control the ball or where to pass it.

Are you aware of how many images are flying through your head?

No, it simply happens. I was born with it. I’ve done it from a young age. In professional football, everything happens much more quickly, and my mind works faster too, so I wouldn’t be able to say how many images I see during a game. It happens subconsciously.

Why do you celebrate scoring by sticking out your tongue?

Many people have asked me that. My family and friends ask me why I stick my tongue out. There’s no specific reason; it just came to me when I scored my first goal for Las Palmas, and like other things I do when I play, it happens subconsciously. It’s just something I do when I score a goal, and it’s just stuck! And every time I see you, I do it, as you know me and I know you’ll copy it. It’s that mutual trust we have, and every time we meet, we celebrate a small goal. 

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“It’s better to slow the game down and attack in a precise way when we’re ready. That’s how we do most damage”
It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or

What does FC Barcelona mean to you?

It’s my life. Since I was a kid, that has been the case. I would always watch the games with my family, and my father instilled it in me as a kid. I watched games at the supporters’ club and always wanted them to win, and now I can enjoy it from the inside. I’m living everything I dreamt of, and right now, it’s everything to me. 

You arrived here from Las Palmas, but you play as if you grew up at La Masia. How is that?

Partly because I watched so many Barça games from a very young age. Football in the Canary Islands is about quality, enjoying having the ball, so it’s similar to Barça’s football. By watching so many matches on TV, watching videos of Andrés [Iniesta] or Xavi, lots of things stick with you. You try to copy them, you try to practise it, but it’s tough to be at that level. So, you try to improve every day so that, one day, you can do what they did. I would often watch Iniesta videos. He was my idol, and I would try to copy what he did in a specific play, how he protected the ball. 

Your position is similar to Xavi’s, but your style is more like Iniesta’s these days. Would you agree?

Yes, my position in midfield has changed a little bit. I play a bit further back, so I get on the ball a bit more and can replicate the days when Barcelona had a lot of possession with Xavi and Iniesta. They had so much possession and got on the ball a lot in midfield. When you have a player with quality and when you enjoy yourself, everything works out. Everything flows, to put it one way, and I’m playing my best football at the moment. Iniesta’s level was incredible, and I hope to reach that level one day.

You play the same way whether you are under pressure or not, whether playing for Barcelona or Spain.

I’ve always wanted to try to do something when there is pressure. You often think your opponent is right on top of you, but you have an extra second. It might not feel like it, but you have time to turn, play it back to the defence, and that’s important when you’re being pressed. When a central midfielder is pressed by the opposition and calls for the ball, they can make a play and help their team-mates, and this is key for a possession-based game plan.

When you draw the opposition players in, do your ankles suffer?

Yes. They do sometimes take a beating, but it’s often better to take a knock on your ankle and your team keeps the ball than lose possession and not wanting the ball and hiding behind the opposition.

You seem to control time and space on the pitch. Is that a good summary?

That’s what I try to do in a match. We have a lot of attackers in the team, so they always want to push forward. Sometimes, it’s better to slow the game down, get our foot on the ball and keep it, because lots of turnovers are not good for us as a team. It’s better to slow it down, calm down and attack in a precise way when the team is ready. That’s how we can do most damage.

Hansi Flick is strict, but he’s also a kind of father figure. Is that fair?

Yes. It’s a young squad and he is a father in the way that he always tries to look after us. He is there for you if you’re not playing. He always tries to help you. Besides being strict, the side of him that you don’t see from outside is that he always tries to help you when you’re playing badly. He speaks to you, asks what’s wrong. He tries to be this father role that you mentioned. It’s great because when it’s time to train, he’s strict, and when it comes to talking, he’s also calm.

What was it like to rejoin the squad after your injury and to have to learn Barça’s new high defensive line?

It was hard to adapt, especially when I was watching it from the outside during pre-season and they were implementing it. It worked out from the start, so that calmed me down a little, but it was a bit like… not fear, because I knew that if we were doing it, there was a reason, but just to see how I would adapt. For example, the first time I played, when you’re out on the pitch, you look back and say, “There’s a lot of space behind!” But, from the very start, the team has done it really well, and when it works it gives you much more confidence. Everyone trusts the boss, everyone knows what he’s trying to say. I’ve started studying English too, to understand him even more, and that’s important. The good thing is that the team receives that message, and it shows. Despite the language, he’s managed to convey [his vision] perfectly. 

Does it make you think even more about never losing the ball?

Exactly, yes, because if you lose the ball, they’re immediately right in front of Tek [Wojciech Szczęsny]. It’s important that when we don’t have the ball and a midfielder from the other team has it, there’s no way you can let them turn and think, because with such a high line, if he has time to think, he’ll play a through ball into space and they’ll be through on goal. The key to playing with such a high line is putting pressure on the ball, making sure the player in possession has no space or time, because if not, you’re done.

Because the high line makes the game so compact, you have an advantage, don’t you?

Exactly. I think Barça’s playing style in every training session, in every rondo, in everything, is always played in small spaces. And playing possession football in small spaces, where there’s less room, Barça players have always come out on top in that scenario. We have the quality to play in those spaces.

How tough was it dealing with the injury and rehabilitation?

Nobody is ever prepared for it. It’s the worst part of the game. The worst thing of all is when the team goes out and trains on the pitch, and you can’t play because you’re injured and undergoing treatment. You have to train alone – it’s just you and the ball. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. It’s difficult and a tough time to go through. 

Did you have to fight any demons?

No. I was lucky that when I started playing again, I had forgotten about what happened, about the injury. As soon as I set foot on the pitch again, I tried to enjoy it as much as I could. It’s true that when another injury came along and I needed crutches again, it was quite hard, but the doctor said that it was time to recover, no matter how many weeks it took, whether it would be four or six weeks, or whatever, and that it would be the last [injury].

Has fitness coach Julio Tous played a part in you being able to play so many matches?

All the fitness coaches who came in changed the way we trained. I’m not saying we’re training better or worse or anything like that, but simply that what we do is different. It’s something I’d never seen and I’d never done before. I think I’m doing well, personally, and the team too because we’re flying. I think they’ve taken a new approach to fitness training and that has been great for us.

Tell me about your leadership style.

It’s very hard to define, but I always try to help. When I see someone with their head down, I try to talk to him, ask what’s wrong, try to help him. For example, in my case, when I make a mistake, that’s all I can think about. So, whenever a team-mate makes a mistake, I’ll go over to them and tell them it’s OK, that they’ll get it right next time. These things help, mentally speaking, and they certainly help the team.

Were you happy your Spain team-mate Rodri won the Ballon d’Or?

It showed that a player who runs the midfield and dictates the tempo and the rhythm of the game can win a Ballon d’Or. I was really pleased he won it, because aside from the season he had, I really enjoy playing with him when I’m with the national team. He controls the game really well, wins the ball back, gets forward, scores goals – he’s everywhere on the pitch. It’s really important for the Ballon d’Or that a midfielder wins it, not always the forwards.

Don’t be humble, but could we one day see Pedri lift the Ballon d’Or?

Hopefully. It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or. But, right now, there’s a month to go, and the focus is on the team – on winning those three trophies, which is what really matters. Once that month’s over, we’ll see if we can start talking about things like that. 

Pedri relishes chatting about football in depth, plus he’s impressed by the capacious leather gentleman’s-club armchair we’ve provided for this long interview. Only missing a handy wee table for a nice glass of brandy, we agree. The contentment he radiates is also because he happens to be one of those lucky people blessed with a sunny temperament, a quick sense of humour and the great fortune to be paid to do what he most loves in the world – kicking a football. Caressing might be the better verb in his case. Still only 22, Pedro González López has already seen the best and worst of times. Signed by Barcelona from Las Palmas in 2019, the plan was for him to learn the ropes in the B team, or cut his teeth on loan in the Bundesliga, but Blaugrana legend Ronald Koeman took (literally) one look at the youngster with the ball at his feet and decided, not only does this kid stay, he starts. First team. No question.

Correctly hailed as a phenomenal passing machine in summer 2021 for his colossal performances as Spain reached the semi-finals of EURO 2020, and picked in the Team of the Tournament when just 18, the Canary Islander was blighted by repeated muscle injuries for too long thereafter. Nevertheless, he’s already won La Liga, the Copa del Rey (twice), Spain’s Super Cup (twice) and EURO 2024, as well as the Kopa Trophy and Golden Boy Award. Every coach he encounters, for club or country (six important ones so far), neels at the end of their bed at night praying a fervent thank you for Pedri. 

Right now, he’s playing Ballon d’Or-level football: daring, front-foot, inspirational, Iniesta-esque football. It’s a joy to watch. Here, for your entertainment, is the world according to Pedri. Grin, stick out your tongue but, above all, savour his magic wherever and whenever you possibly can.

How much are you loving your game?

I’m hugely enjoying myself on the pitch, and that shows in the performances. If I had to give you a score out of 10 for how happy I am, it’s a 10. It’s one of the most enjoyable runs I’ve had, and I hope it continues for a long time. When I’m training and enjoying myself, it’s not a job; it’s simply my life and what I want to do. If you let me do what I like to do, that’s when I’m happy and, right now, I am.

Is the ball your friend?

Yes! I’ve always said it’s my best friend, since I was a little boy, since I was at home, in the corridor of my house, nutmegging my family, or trying to dribble past them. I’ve always had it at my feet, I’ve always tried to keep one next to me. When I’ve been nervous or have had things happen to me in my life, it was the one thing that calmed me down. I could enjoy my time with it and forget about everything else. When I played with my friends as a kid or against a wall, trying to be a little better every day, you forget about everything else. You switch off. That’s the most beautiful thing about football.

You’re always looking around on the pitch. Are you taking mental pictures to decide your next move?

When you have the ball, or look before receiving it, you know where your team-mates are. Or, when you’re in the middle of a dribble, you can see your team-mate making a run. Those moments give you information to know what to do in the next play. Often, you think before you get the ball. Other times, it’s all instinct because you have less time. But knowing where the players and your team-mates are positioned, it’s much easier to know where you have to control the ball or where to pass it.

Are you aware of how many images are flying through your head?

No, it simply happens. I was born with it. I’ve done it from a young age. In professional football, everything happens much more quickly, and my mind works faster too, so I wouldn’t be able to say how many images I see during a game. It happens subconsciously.

Why do you celebrate scoring by sticking out your tongue?

Many people have asked me that. My family and friends ask me why I stick my tongue out. There’s no specific reason; it just came to me when I scored my first goal for Las Palmas, and like other things I do when I play, it happens subconsciously. It’s just something I do when I score a goal, and it’s just stuck! And every time I see you, I do it, as you know me and I know you’ll copy it. It’s that mutual trust we have, and every time we meet, we celebrate a small goal. 

“It’s better to slow the game down and attack in a precise way when we’re ready. That’s how we do most damage”
It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or

What does FC Barcelona mean to you?

It’s my life. Since I was a kid, that has been the case. I would always watch the games with my family, and my father instilled it in me as a kid. I watched games at the supporters’ club and always wanted them to win, and now I can enjoy it from the inside. I’m living everything I dreamt of, and right now, it’s everything to me. 

You arrived here from Las Palmas, but you play as if you grew up at La Masia. How is that?

Partly because I watched so many Barça games from a very young age. Football in the Canary Islands is about quality, enjoying having the ball, so it’s similar to Barça’s football. By watching so many matches on TV, watching videos of Andrés [Iniesta] or Xavi, lots of things stick with you. You try to copy them, you try to practise it, but it’s tough to be at that level. So, you try to improve every day so that, one day, you can do what they did. I would often watch Iniesta videos. He was my idol, and I would try to copy what he did in a specific play, how he protected the ball. 

Your position is similar to Xavi’s, but your style is more like Iniesta’s these days. Would you agree?

Yes, my position in midfield has changed a little bit. I play a bit further back, so I get on the ball a bit more and can replicate the days when Barcelona had a lot of possession with Xavi and Iniesta. They had so much possession and got on the ball a lot in midfield. When you have a player with quality and when you enjoy yourself, everything works out. Everything flows, to put it one way, and I’m playing my best football at the moment. Iniesta’s level was incredible, and I hope to reach that level one day.

You play the same way whether you are under pressure or not, whether playing for Barcelona or Spain.

I’ve always wanted to try to do something when there is pressure. You often think your opponent is right on top of you, but you have an extra second. It might not feel like it, but you have time to turn, play it back to the defence, and that’s important when you’re being pressed. When a central midfielder is pressed by the opposition and calls for the ball, they can make a play and help their team-mates, and this is key for a possession-based game plan.

When you draw the opposition players in, do your ankles suffer?

Yes. They do sometimes take a beating, but it’s often better to take a knock on your ankle and your team keeps the ball than lose possession and not wanting the ball and hiding behind the opposition.

You seem to control time and space on the pitch. Is that a good summary?

That’s what I try to do in a match. We have a lot of attackers in the team, so they always want to push forward. Sometimes, it’s better to slow the game down, get our foot on the ball and keep it, because lots of turnovers are not good for us as a team. It’s better to slow it down, calm down and attack in a precise way when the team is ready. That’s how we can do most damage.

Hansi Flick is strict, but he’s also a kind of father figure. Is that fair?

Yes. It’s a young squad and he is a father in the way that he always tries to look after us. He is there for you if you’re not playing. He always tries to help you. Besides being strict, the side of him that you don’t see from outside is that he always tries to help you when you’re playing badly. He speaks to you, asks what’s wrong. He tries to be this father role that you mentioned. It’s great because when it’s time to train, he’s strict, and when it comes to talking, he’s also calm.

What was it like to rejoin the squad after your injury and to have to learn Barça’s new high defensive line?

It was hard to adapt, especially when I was watching it from the outside during pre-season and they were implementing it. It worked out from the start, so that calmed me down a little, but it was a bit like… not fear, because I knew that if we were doing it, there was a reason, but just to see how I would adapt. For example, the first time I played, when you’re out on the pitch, you look back and say, “There’s a lot of space behind!” But, from the very start, the team has done it really well, and when it works it gives you much more confidence. Everyone trusts the boss, everyone knows what he’s trying to say. I’ve started studying English too, to understand him even more, and that’s important. The good thing is that the team receives that message, and it shows. Despite the language, he’s managed to convey [his vision] perfectly. 

Does it make you think even more about never losing the ball?

Exactly, yes, because if you lose the ball, they’re immediately right in front of Tek [Wojciech Szczęsny]. It’s important that when we don’t have the ball and a midfielder from the other team has it, there’s no way you can let them turn and think, because with such a high line, if he has time to think, he’ll play a through ball into space and they’ll be through on goal. The key to playing with such a high line is putting pressure on the ball, making sure the player in possession has no space or time, because if not, you’re done.

Because the high line makes the game so compact, you have an advantage, don’t you?

Exactly. I think Barça’s playing style in every training session, in every rondo, in everything, is always played in small spaces. And playing possession football in small spaces, where there’s less room, Barça players have always come out on top in that scenario. We have the quality to play in those spaces.

How tough was it dealing with the injury and rehabilitation?

Nobody is ever prepared for it. It’s the worst part of the game. The worst thing of all is when the team goes out and trains on the pitch, and you can’t play because you’re injured and undergoing treatment. You have to train alone – it’s just you and the ball. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. It’s difficult and a tough time to go through. 

Did you have to fight any demons?

No. I was lucky that when I started playing again, I had forgotten about what happened, about the injury. As soon as I set foot on the pitch again, I tried to enjoy it as much as I could. It’s true that when another injury came along and I needed crutches again, it was quite hard, but the doctor said that it was time to recover, no matter how many weeks it took, whether it would be four or six weeks, or whatever, and that it would be the last [injury].

Has fitness coach Julio Tous played a part in you being able to play so many matches?

All the fitness coaches who came in changed the way we trained. I’m not saying we’re training better or worse or anything like that, but simply that what we do is different. It’s something I’d never seen and I’d never done before. I think I’m doing well, personally, and the team too because we’re flying. I think they’ve taken a new approach to fitness training and that has been great for us.

Tell me about your leadership style.

It’s very hard to define, but I always try to help. When I see someone with their head down, I try to talk to him, ask what’s wrong, try to help him. For example, in my case, when I make a mistake, that’s all I can think about. So, whenever a team-mate makes a mistake, I’ll go over to them and tell them it’s OK, that they’ll get it right next time. These things help, mentally speaking, and they certainly help the team.

Were you happy your Spain team-mate Rodri won the Ballon d’Or?

It showed that a player who runs the midfield and dictates the tempo and the rhythm of the game can win a Ballon d’Or. I was really pleased he won it, because aside from the season he had, I really enjoy playing with him when I’m with the national team. He controls the game really well, wins the ball back, gets forward, scores goals – he’s everywhere on the pitch. It’s really important for the Ballon d’Or that a midfielder wins it, not always the forwards.

Don’t be humble, but could we one day see Pedri lift the Ballon d’Or?

Hopefully. It’s always been a dream of mine to lift the Ballon d’Or. But, right now, there’s a month to go, and the focus is on the team – on winning those three trophies, which is what really matters. Once that month’s over, we’ll see if we can start talking about things like that. 

Insight
'One big family'

From Gavi and Lamine Yamal to Ferran Torres and Dani Olmo, there is a sense of brotherhood in this young Barça side. Here, Pedri talks team-mates

“It’s often said that the dressing room is like a family, but, in this case, we’re like little brothers and we’re one big family, and that shows on the pitch. When you see someone running for you or doing things for you, it’s a boost, and you say, ‘I’m going to do the same for him and give my 100 per cent for him.’

“Gavi’s an amazing person who’s always going to be by your side, a loyal guy. If he’s with you, he’s with you to the death. That’s a big part of who he is. In daily life, he’s always moving. If we play table football, he doesn’t like to lose; whatever we play, he doesn’t like to lose. That’s why many people would not move in with him, but he’s a loyal guy I’d take with me everywhere.

“Dani [Olmo]’s a player I love – especially when he finds those spaces between the lines. He’s often surrounded by four defenders and with just one touch, those four are gone, and he’s already facing the goal. From the first time I met him with the national team, from day one, I thought he was a great guy. He’s a really humble bloke. And more than anything, it’s the calmness he brings on the pitch and how well we link up. 

“During the EURO, there was all this talk that we didn’t get on, that we couldn’t play together, but it was the complete opposite – we wanted to play together. I told him in the summer he should come [to Barça], that I wanted to play alongside him because I really enjoy being on the pitch with him, and now I’m enjoying it a lot.

“Ferran is like a brother to me. He’s the one who’s helped me the most, both on and off the pitch. Aside from the goals he scores, he’s the one who works the hardest in every training session, always looking to improve. When he signed, I always used to call him ‘the goal man’ because he always has the goal in his sights – that hunger to score is what drives him to keep improving. He’s a top player. Off the pitch, he’d always give me a bit of stick, always trying to wind me up a bit, and I think that’s helped both of us grow.”

Insight
'One big family'

From Gavi and Lamine Yamal to Ferran Torres and Dani Olmo, there is a sense of brotherhood in this young Barça side. Here, Pedri talks team-mates

“It’s often said that the dressing room is like a family, but, in this case, we’re like little brothers and we’re one big family, and that shows on the pitch. When you see someone running for you or doing things for you, it’s a boost, and you say, ‘I’m going to do the same for him and give my 100 per cent for him.’

“Gavi’s an amazing person who’s always going to be by your side, a loyal guy. If he’s with you, he’s with you to the death. That’s a big part of who he is. In daily life, he’s always moving. If we play table football, he doesn’t like to lose; whatever we play, he doesn’t like to lose. That’s why many people would not move in with him, but he’s a loyal guy I’d take with me everywhere.

“Dani [Olmo]’s a player I love – especially when he finds those spaces between the lines. He’s often surrounded by four defenders and with just one touch, those four are gone, and he’s already facing the goal. From the first time I met him with the national team, from day one, I thought he was a great guy. He’s a really humble bloke. And more than anything, it’s the calmness he brings on the pitch and how well we link up. 

“During the EURO, there was all this talk that we didn’t get on, that we couldn’t play together, but it was the complete opposite – we wanted to play together. I told him in the summer he should come [to Barça], that I wanted to play alongside him because I really enjoy being on the pitch with him, and now I’m enjoying it a lot.

“Ferran is like a brother to me. He’s the one who’s helped me the most, both on and off the pitch. Aside from the goals he scores, he’s the one who works the hardest in every training session, always looking to improve. When he signed, I always used to call him ‘the goal man’ because he always has the goal in his sights – that hunger to score is what drives him to keep improving. He’s a top player. Off the pitch, he’d always give me a bit of stick, always trying to wind me up a bit, and I think that’s helped both of us grow.”

Insight
'One big family'

From Gavi and Lamine Yamal to Ferran Torres and Dani Olmo, there is a sense of brotherhood in this young Barça side. Here, Pedri talks team-mates

“It’s often said that the dressing room is like a family, but, in this case, we’re like little brothers and we’re one big family, and that shows on the pitch. When you see someone running for you or doing things for you, it’s a boost, and you say, ‘I’m going to do the same for him and give my 100 per cent for him.’

“Gavi’s an amazing person who’s always going to be by your side, a loyal guy. If he’s with you, he’s with you to the death. That’s a big part of who he is. In daily life, he’s always moving. If we play table football, he doesn’t like to lose; whatever we play, he doesn’t like to lose. That’s why many people would not move in with him, but he’s a loyal guy I’d take with me everywhere.

“Dani [Olmo]’s a player I love – especially when he finds those spaces between the lines. He’s often surrounded by four defenders and with just one touch, those four are gone, and he’s already facing the goal. From the first time I met him with the national team, from day one, I thought he was a great guy. He’s a really humble bloke. And more than anything, it’s the calmness he brings on the pitch and how well we link up. 

“During the EURO, there was all this talk that we didn’t get on, that we couldn’t play together, but it was the complete opposite – we wanted to play together. I told him in the summer he should come [to Barça], that I wanted to play alongside him because I really enjoy being on the pitch with him, and now I’m enjoying it a lot.

“Ferran is like a brother to me. He’s the one who’s helped me the most, both on and off the pitch. Aside from the goals he scores, he’s the one who works the hardest in every training session, always looking to improve. When he signed, I always used to call him ‘the goal man’ because he always has the goal in his sights – that hunger to score is what drives him to keep improving. He’s a top player. Off the pitch, he’d always give me a bit of stick, always trying to wind me up a bit, and I think that’s helped both of us grow.”

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